on finding your style and not putting pressure on yourself w/ Savannah Scribbles | episode 8

28 May

In this episode:

how Savannah balances her full-time job with her business
her thought process leading up to her shop launch
her tips for beginner journalling
her mindset with evolving style and change

Savannah is based in California, United States and is a full-time graphic designer and social media manager for a small independent skin care brand, who also has a bullet journal instagram and owner of a cosy stationery shop.

Do you have any tips for someone that wants to start up their own Etsy shop, a journal instagram or just start journaling for the first time?

Savannah: It sounds like simple to be honest but I feel like everyone thinks that they need like all these pens and all these washi tapes and all these stickers like all these supplies just to start doing it but you don't need any of that. You just honestly need a piece of paper and a writing utensil… don't go into it thinking that this is the final product because I knew when I started journaling that my journals probably weren't going to look like that in a year or in two years.

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Hello and welcome back to another episode of unplanned podcast we are attempting, by we I mean I, am attempting to do this monthly but as you might be able to tell from the title, I am switching things up a little bit and I'm really excited to bring you this guest interview with Savannah from Savannah Scribbles.
This is something that I've always really wanted to do. I wanted to have conversations with creatives of all mediums and ask them about business but also ask them about their creative process and just their approach to things. So I hope you find this as interesting as it was for me to record and I hope you find these valuable as well. I am looking forward to bringing you these guest interviews every two months.
We're gonna alternate between me doing a deep dive on topics on my own and then doing guest interviews. And my whole thought process behind this project is that I love listening to podcast interviews because I love learning from other people that are doing really well in their fields but I feel like there's less of a focus, less of a highlight, on smaller creatives and micro businesses where it's just one person running it and I just really want to redefine what success can be.
Yes there are very successful businesses and creators out there but there are also a lot smaller ones that are still just as successful and are running their business, maybe on the side or full time, and I think those experiences are really important to share and I really want to showcase that. So that is what the point of this whole project is, but I can't wait to bring you more interviews with creatives that I think aren't really given as much credit in the business and creative world.
We tend to put really wildly successful people up on a pedestal, which is justified because they're doing really well, but I think we need to redefine what success means to us and I just really want to reinforce that we don't need to be making millions of dollars in order to have a successful career. I want us to redefine that in our own way and so I want to highlight these smaller businesses and creatives that are living a creative and fulfilled life on their own terms so I hope you enjoyed this interview and thank you so much to savannah for being my very first guest.
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Savannah: I have Animal Crossing, I always have Twitch on, like I have to have something on in the background so I probably just have someone playing Animal Crossing because I can't play right now. So if you're wondering what's it's just Animal Crossing.
Jess: yes I was wondering actually. Have you ever considered streaming Animal Crossing?
Savannah: Honestly I feel like streaming it would be so cool because I'd love to have like emotes and and just like the, I don't know, it just sounds cool, I just. Whether I have time to do it I guess is more of the that's the real question, the question slash if I want to be like in the public eye almost I don't know it's just like I don't know if I'd use a webcam necessarily but I don't know I've thought about it though yeah I got it
Jess: it'd be pretty fun to watch because I know you did mention to me that you were considering maybe doing youtube videos as well
Savannah: yeah again time slash I just don't know where to start I guess because I feel like I think studio vlogs would be really cool but I feel like I don't do enough within a certain amount of time to like make a studio vlog if that makes sense. It's, it'll, I don't know I feel like my life's just not interesting enough yeah
Jess: everyone says that but I mean studio vlogs are just technically pretty boring stuff anyways just like things that we always do yeah
Savannah: that's true although it's I don't know it's always interesting like when other people do it and I'm like oh that'd be so cool to do like aesthetic shots of coffee in the morning just like like drawing on the ipad or stuff like that but yeah it's still on my to-do list but it's not a priority I guess
Jess: yeah no I get that. You've got a lot of things going on definitely yeah. So I guess we should actually properly introduce you so Savannah Scribbles could you tell us a little bit about yourself for those of you for those of the audience that don't know you.
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Savannah: yeah so hi I'm Savannah, I am a full-time graphic designer and social media manager for a small independent skin care brand but on the side I have a bullet journaling instagram and I also own a small business shop where I sell stationery and stickers and all that fun stuff so.
Jess: yeah and you just launched recently too as well... and you've already had your third shop update and the third one was this morning it was
Savannah: yeah it was this morning. It was my first time doing like a holiday launch any like you know, black friday kind of deal, definitely was a little, I wasn't nervous I just realised once I launched it and everything that I was not as prepared as I should have been I feel it but I feel like that also kind of comes with time. Like the more you kind of you're the more seasoned you are when it comes to making products and having updates the kind of easier it is for you to to launch it. But yeah third third shop update.
Jess: yeah it's pretty, yeah it's awesome I think I feel like you're really organized with it and even though you say that you get better with time I feel like I've been doing it for like almost two years now and I'm still just as unprepared every single time. But do you feel yourself slowly getting better with each shop update.
Savannah: I do, I think the the one thing that I've noticed that I'm getting better at is the physical listing of products because I do use Etsy for my shop and for my first shop update, I didn't realise how much time it was going to take for me to take the photo, list it, do the tariff codes for international, like all this stuff just added up and I was like I have five minutes till it launches and I still have so much to do. So I think when it comes to technical and logistical stuff it's getting better because I now know how much time it takes like it doesn't take an hour it takes a lot longer than that especially if you're listing more than five products. But as far as everything else, I'd say it's definitely gotten easier but mainly just the the back end is what takes the most time.
Jess: the part that people don't see yeah. What would you say is your favourite part of doing a shop update and maybe you've already answered it but your least favourite part
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Savannah: well yeah least favourite part is definitely the back end of everything. My favourite part I guess, I mean, I guess making the products would be kind of like the obvious answer but making it in the sense of having that idea and being super inspired with it, not so much seeing the physical copy which is might sound kind of weird but I feel like I get more joy out of seeing it come together because sometimes like with when it comes to like making certain things like with Cricut, for example, I've been having a lot of problems with doing it and it can kind of take the joy out of it because it might not turn out that great or it cuts off all the time and it's just like such like a frustrating part of it. It's still rewarding obviously seeing it, seeing the finished product but there's no better satisfaction than seeing it.
Jess: yeah I think I know what you mean, yeah getting the idea out of your head and actually starting to work on it, I find that pretty rewarding as well and just like for me it's like printer issues. Just something always goes wrong every time there's a shop update it's just timed so perfectly that something will always go wrong.
Savannah: It's like, if I'm printing something from my journals or just doing something for myself, I have no problem but then when it comes to doing something for other people or doing it for my shop like I made my brother's business cards last week and I just, like it, nothing was working, like it just it took so much longer than it it usually does for something like that but I guess it's just kind of how it works yeah
Jess: and I find that with the deadline of shop updates because I'm never, I'm always doing things like one two days before the actual launch so it's like even more stressful because you're like I need to get this done like really, really quickly yeah. But I feel like a few people will be wondering, how do you balance everything like your day job because you have a full-time job and your Etsy shop and your Instagram on the side. Because you are doing a lot of things.
Savannah: I think it also what comes into play too is that even though I do have a full-time job it's not a super demanding job. I can, because I do work from home every day especially since the pandemic started, I've just gotten used to kind of making my own routine so because my job isn't super demanding, I can kind of work around what I have to do for that job plus kind of weave in what I do for my journaling and for my shop so I I think in the beginning it was a lot more difficult to find the time to journal and I still, I still find it hard to find the time now but I know that it's going to take me at least an hour to do one journal spread so I already know going into it that I'm not going to need to be disturbed for an hour.
But it's difficult honestly when you do have other responsibilities and needing to find that time. But sometimes when you do have the time you're not motivated to do whatever it is that you need. So if I know that I have to post something on Instagram or I know that I have a shop update coming out but I'm not feeling motivated to make stickers or do a certain journaling spread then I just end up not using that time that I have for free. Yeah so it's it's challenging for sure but I think just kind of not putting so much pressure on yourself to get something done and just letting it flow, makes it a little bit easier.
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Jess: and putting too much pressure on yourself creatively will just have the opposite effect anyway yeah. I was going to say the hardest part probably, I mean it's good that you work from home so you save time in the commute as well, but I was gonna say balancing like another full-time job I would say the mental switching like even when you do make time for journaling, it's just like you have to switch out of the other work mode and just try to like think about the other thing
Savannah: yeah especially because the Instagram account that I do manage for my full-time job, the aesthetic is completely different. It's all pastels and bright colors and then like my instagram is none of that. It's like it's a complete like exactly creative switch but it's easier to make that switch because it's something I love to do so it's not as difficult as I guess going like maybe the other way around. And I feel like the season, the seasonal changes also can kind of affect motivation. I found it really difficult to create winter products for this shop update because I live in California and it the winter is not really a thing here at least we're in the part of California I'm in it's I mean the other day it was like 80 degrees so not really.
Jess: It sounds really hot to me
Savannah: yeah I don't know what the conversion rate is but it's just hot, too hot for me but so it's I'm a really seasonal dependent person which is I guess a good and a bad thing like in when it rains I'm like all kinds of inspired when it's the fall...
Jess: yeah I know you love fall
Savannah: when it's hot summer I really don't feel like doing much so that's kind of another thing I've been needing to work on. Just to find other ways to be inspired to work on a certain thing and not be so dependent on things I can't control.
Jess: yeah no I'm the same with weather except I'm a little bit flipped so when it rains I'm like I don't feel like doing anything I'm just cold and tired like right now it's so gloomy but when it's sunny I'm like I'm ready to do anything like I love it.
Savannah: Total opposite
Jess: yeah I don't know why you're living in California if you don't feel inspired by it
Savannah: I know, I know it's I mean I grew up here and this is kind of like where I I've lived my whole life and I went to college it's here so I this is all I know but yeah eventually we'd love to move elsewhere ideally to some place that isn't sunny all the time.
Jess: Let's swap. I would love to live in California! Warm all year round.
Savannah: The weather is kind of different compared to here as far as like time of the year right.
Jess: so yeah we're flipped, so we're opposite so our christmases are just really really hot but even between different states like in Sydney it's pretty much sunny like 90% of the year but if you go to Melbourne, it's like London weather. It's just raining and cold all the time even though we're like right next to each other yeah.
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Savannah: yeah I've I studied abroad in London when I was in college for like six months and I had an internship there and everything and oh my god that weather was the best weather I've ever been in. I loved it so much.
Jess: yeah I can see the influence coming through in your journal spreads. You do love the cosy. Are there ever times when you're creating like a cosy kind of aesthetic look but it's really hot? Is that most of the time?
Savannah: yeah that's like 90% of the time. I think this year it's probably rained maybe like five times... six yeah it's so sad.
Jess: I wanted to ask you about your thought process leading up to launching your shop because I know you wanted to launch your shop for a while so I just wanted you to talk about like were you hesitating, like why were the reasons, why you didn't launch earlier, did you wish you launched earlier?
Savannah: yeah, I feel like I launched when I was emotionally mentally and physically ready for it and by physically, I mean the space I was in my my fiancé and I lived in a very small studio apartment and I had this like little tiny corner and I just I loved the corner but after a while it just I wasn't getting inspired and I feel like the space you're in has a lot to do with being motivated and being inspired especially for an artist and I just physically wasn't ready to, or even had the space to, really open a shop that shouldn't stop anyone ever from pursuing a dream but for me personally I just I knew it wasn't the right time to do it.
And I feel like monetarily as well I knew that it was going to be something that I had to invest a good amount of money in and I wanted to get a good printer a good cutting machine and supplies obviously so saving up for that too was something that I was kind of waiting for
Jess: so expensive
Savannah: yeah and I just I feel like I wasn't also grown into myself as a artist yet I feel like I was still developing my style and both for digital drawing and also for journaling because if you were to look back at my very first instagram post for journaling it looks like someone else made that journaling post. It is it's completely different but it also shows like you can kind of see the progression of when I started versus where I am now and I feel like I wasn't confident enough in my skills to start something. Which is why I didn't open it till September of this year because I felt confident in every sense of the word and I was just ready to do it.
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Jess: that's amazing because I feel like no one ever really says they felt ready to do it even though you felt like it was the right time to do it so I think that was that's really interesting. I definitely didn't. I don't remember when I launched, I can't remember anything, but I remember not ever being ready but at the same time like because I think you can relate to this because you're in your head so much you're like I've just been thinking about this for so long I'm also over it so it's like simultaneously I'm not ready but I just need to get this out there because I just can't stop thinking about this kind of thing so I think I just eventually got to the point where I got so sick of myself that I'm like if I don't do something about it like I'm just gonna go crazy. But you said that you felt like you your style hadn't developed yet? Which I thought was interesting because I thought you have one of the strongest kind of styles because you're really consistent with your style but obviously if you look back over your instagram feed I haven't scrolled back that far but if you look at it—
Savannah: it's a trip I wouldn't do that
Jess: so how long have, would you say, it's taken you to kind of get to— so you still feel like your style's evolving but how long has it taken you to get to where you are in terms of style and knowing what you like.
Savannah: I'd say probably a year. I think cause I can't remember when I started bullet journaling I think it was 2019 I believe is when I made my first post and even at the end of that year, you can kind of see the switch to when I went from very pinterest minimalist because that's what I thought I wanted to very like scrapbooky and messy and much more myself. So I think it took probably about a year for me to be...
I wouldn't say confident in my journaling, just maybe comfortable is the word, just really satisfied with what I was doing and felt like it was a reflection of me and because I feel like especially for artists in general, the tendency to compare yourself to everyone out there regardless of what part of their artistic journey they're on, is just is very easy to fall into that hole and I was on Pinterest so much when I first started because I wanted my journaling spreads to be like what I saw and now I really only go on Pinterest if I need photos for my journal or inspiration for other things but because I think it's because I've just fallen so much in love with what I create that I don't really find the need to look at other journals for inspiration when it comes to that because I'm confident in my style
Jess: yeah and you're learning to trust what you like as well
Savannah: It's a process
Jess: I think it's really hard for people to get to
Savannah: yeah it definitely wasn't an overnight situation it took months and trial and error do I like this do I not like this and sometimes I feel like it's almost too much when when I say that I mean because it it takes a long time. To make a journaling spread it could take like about an hour and sometimes I don't have an hour and sometimes I don't want it to take an hour but I just kind of end up losing myself in it and it just ends up taking an hour so it's a good and a bad thing.
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Jess: Do you always know what your spreads will turn out like when you start working on them? Do you always have some sort of plan in mind?
Savannah: When it comes to monthly spreads I do. If I'm just journaling for myself or if for instance, I actually got your package in the mail today, so as soon as I saw it, oh obviously yeah you saw it, and I was just like I have to start a spread with these stickers so sometimes it just comes out if I get something in the mail or a new journal then I just I get immediately inspired to make a spread. I don't really plan it out too much as to how it would look like, it's kind of just like oh I want to use this I want to use this and then I'll just kind of put it together but there really isn't much planning that goes into it unless it's a monthly spread where I try to come up with a theme and then work from there. So yeah it's kind of dependent to be honest.
Jess: pretty cool yeah because I just feel like you're so consistent with your content that I don't know how you're able to like produce that many spreads, I think it's amazing and it's even better that you're not really planning for it. But I was going to ask you with because yeah Pinterest for journaling it's like such a huge resource for it and it is easy to get lost in it would you say the same thing for instagram? Like do you find it, do you have to ignore kind of other feeds, other profiles on Instagram so that you're not really influenced?
Savannah: yeah I mean, I love seeing what other people create and I feel like there's a fine line between trying to love it but not think that you have to change what you're currently doing. Whether it's with having your own business or journaling or painting or whatever the case is, it's difficult for sure because I want to see what other people are creating but at the same time there's always this voice in the back of my head that's saying like maybe you could do this or maybe you should change how you do this or maybe you should make stickers like this, instead of how you're doing it.
So it's a scary place to go into your mind and think that you have to change everything about how you're doing it because of maybe someone else's success with something else or maybe like, how they're, like what sticker paper they're using I don't know I feel like it kind of ranges on the scale as to to how deep you can go with it but it's a fine line.
Jess: How do you kind of manage that? Do you have any systems in place to make sure you're not on Instagram too much or do you say things to yourself to break yourself out of that thought process?
Savannah: I think I just don't spend too much time looking at it. I see it, I appreciate it, I would comment, I would like it but I don't, I just don't try to get so consumed by it and I think because I am on instagram so much not only for my full-time job but for my business and for journaling that I just I try not to spend too much time on Instagram outside of that. I don't really have like a method of kind of staying away from it. I just I just try not to get too consumed by the outlet itself if that makes sense.
Jess: yeah no I'm the same as well because I just find it easy it's just the scrolling and just you have to break yourself out of just like okay I've been scrolling for how long now like I think that's enough like take a step back. Yeah but I think it's really easy for, I know it's a really common feeling, to just feel like you're not doing enough when you see other people posting and yeah especially because you're so popular in the the journaling community as well I feel like other people might look at your spreads and think like oh my spreads don't look like that and they start to feel bad about themselves so yeah I think it's really important to not let yourself dwell on it and to not compare yourself to other people because they're all always at different parts of their their journey like you don't know how long it took them to get where they are.
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Savannah: right yeah and there's been a few times where I've gotten comments on my instagram posts of people saying like like I wish I had time for this I wish I could do this like it's so cool I mostly was just like I wish I had the creativity or the time to do this and it just breaks my heart because I don't want people to think that like it that you don't have to journal because you don't have the time or you don't have creativity, whatever creativity means to you.
Journaling could be as simple as just writing your to-do list with like maybe like a little star or like a little underlining or it could be as complex as what I do but it shouldn't stop you from starting it and I feel like a lot of people when it comes especially when it comes to certain art mediums, it's either you go all the way or you don't start at all. Yeah it's sad
Jess: I think it's really intimidating because you're just you're seeing the more complex finished products that it doesn't even want to make you start for sure especially with journaling I found that really intimidating at the beginning and I was like, I would never be able to do these spreads and I was just doing really, really simple to-do lists but it just kind of happened naturally I guess because of the content I consumed so I started sticking things in my journal here and there and it just eventually became like my own style.
But I was gonna ask you as well, just going back to your shop update and your design process, how you came up with the products for your shop, did you already have an idea of like what you wanted to do? Because you have quite a range of products which I thought was really interesting
Savannah: yeah um I think it's, I feel like with my products a lot of myself is in them. A lot of stuff that I personally love is reflected in one way or another in the products that I release or maybe not so much solely what I love but something that I aspire to enjoy or aspire to be a part of.
For example, the holiday sticker sheet that I released has a lot of like cozy snow not 80 degree weather related things that I wish I could enjoy more and that's like almost I feel like I try to make my products almost in a world in which I would love to live in, in one way or another. So you would see like a lot of my love for fall, my love for books, for gaming, which might not suit everyone's needs like I feel like the gaming sphere is a very niche aspect when it comes to small businesses and stickers and all that but it's something that I love so even if it's not like the most popular item in my shop I loved making that those stickers so I know I have to do it I know I have to release it.
So I think it's just trying to combine a colour palette that I love with a subject that I love and making it something that I would want to use in my journals as well. I mostly get it from my day-to-day interests to be honest.
Jess: do you ever sit down to plan your products or as it comes to you you just kind of write it down later?
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Savannah: well since I do actually I started using Notion, like I fell into that hole like last month, was it a mistake probably not sometimes I feel like it was a mistake because there's just like the possibilities with notion are just - it's like digital journaling honestly - yeah I just wanted to make sure I didn't get into the the habit of like solely using Notion because I still love doing things are traditional way. It's more just a place where I can just dump everything that's in here and just kind of have it someplace where it would look nice and I could easily delete it or add something to it. But I totally lost my train of thought—
Jess: I think for writing down new ideas? I'm like, don't ask me because I forgot what I was asking as well
Savannah: There was a reason why I mentioned Notion
Jess: You were planning? Planning for...
Savannah: I think so for every shop update I try to make a list of products that I want to release or I'm thinking about releasing. Try to do like one or two sticker sheets, something for journaling, and then other products like a miscellaneous product like a bookmark or a notebook or I just released washi tape which was so much fun to do that was my first time ever making washi tape and I was able to find a really great supplier and it's honestly my favourite product from this shop update.
So I kind of make a list of stuff that I'm thinking about and after that I kind of mull it over in my head about, you know I start sketching out ideas but I don't put pressure on myself to stick to that list because sometimes I end up coming up with ideas later down the road and replace that idea with what I had like in my list previously. So I kind of just do it as I go but I mainly use notion for kind of organising my ideas or at least I try to, plus if I see something on instagram that's like oh that'd be such a cool idea to do I save it and try to go back to it so yeah
Jess: yeah I love notion for that. I've just I've been trying as well to find the balance between like what can I use for digital what can I use for physical because I still love using physical to-do lists but I have actually been using Notion for my weekly kind of things. It's just— I love moving little to-do's around when you haven't finished it and I can like oh you just drag it over here but I do get caught up with like customising it a little bit too much and I don't want to like waste too much time on that.
Savannah: yeah no I think I stayed up when I first downloaded Notion which was mistake number one I think I stayed up until like 3 AM like making it look good because it's a blessing and a curse that I can't just like write a title or put an image like I have to just do everything like I have to make the title look good or I have to have a certain size font, a certain color like it's just how my mind I can't do anything simple which is just so annoying because it takes so long but I just love how it looks in the end so it's a internal battle with myself but luckily Notion makes it really easy I feel like.
Jess: yeah do you find yourself using it consistently these days but anything other than shop updates?
Savannah: yes I mean I, let me actually try to open it here. I have like a list for honestly everything like future goals, monthly goals, like a book tracker, mood board, anime like just everything wedding planning like I just I honestly just use it for everything.
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Jess: do you find that it duplicates like across your journal — physical journal and notion? do you ever write the same thing twice?
Savannah: Not really, to be honest, because I feel like I try to keep my journaling less day to day and more of like a monthly overview or if I just like want to track a habit or how I'm feeling that day. Not so much like a to-do list or like a daily to-do because I have a tendency to just kind of come up with what I'm going to do for that day and then like... not do it or just like I make a to-do list like halfway through the day and then it's just like in my brain.
It just doesn't make sense so I'd rather just have it in a place digitally where I could just easily fix it or easily delete it because if I write something incorrectly and have to cross it out. It drives me kind of crazy because it's not neat anymore. So yeah that's kind of more just like a personal problem.
Jess: and how many journals do you have that you use consistently?
Savannah: That's a dangerous question
Jess: I had a feeling you had multiple
Savannah: I have because I have like a tiered like caddy I don't know if that's what you call — oh yeah like the trolley kind of thing — yeah trolley I'm not sure what to call it and I that's where I have like all my supplies. I think like at least 10.
Jess: Wow consistently that you use?
Savannah: oh no not consistently consistently I say like consistently I'd say like two okay okay yeah because I I do sorry that might have been a little yeah — I was like tell me your secrets — I guess I have three to be honest because I feel like I have one which is my bullet journaling which is what mainly is on my instagram and then I have one for my shop and then I have a midori notebook which is more of just like my personal spreads something if I just kind of feel like journaling that isn't something I want to post and that's kind of what that's for.
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Jess: is it in the same style as your main journal? Oh wow
Savannah: yeah it's all the same stuff. just maybe not as complicated because I I feel like there's a part of being an artist where if you know something's gonna be posted online, there's this slight pressure to make it look good or to kind of hit that standard that you know you can hit. So for my personal journal I don't think about that at all I kind of just journal to journal but my bullet journal is kind of it's my baby. It's something I'm proud to show off. I wouldn't mind showing off my other journal but my mindset's just completely different
Jess: yeah and it would change the way that you actually do those spreads for sure yeah you can tell. To wrap up, do you have any tips for someone that wants to maybe that is looking at you when it's like I want to be there but I don't know how to get there I want to start up my own Etsy shop or I want to start up a journal instagram or just start journaling for the first time. What is kind of some tips that you would give them?
Savannah: oh gosh it's I feel like it's an easy question to answer but also difficult because I feel like everyone's in a different point in their life and maybe doesn't have the support or the space or the time that they think they would need to do it. I started in a place where I honestly didn't know what I was doing and I feel like now right now I have so much inspiration coming from people in my life that I didn't have when I started and I didn't really like have an outlet where I can take inspiration from so I guess my tips would be just start.
It sounds like simple to be honest but I feel like everyone thinks that they need like all these pens and all these washi tapes and all these stickers like all these supplies just to start doing it but you don't need any of that. You just honestly need a piece of paper and a writing utensil like it's don't go into it thinking that this is the final product because I knew when I started journaling that my journals probably weren't going to look like that in a year or in two years.
I knew that I was gonna evolve with myself personally and with my art style. So knowing that you're going to change kind of helps you along the way too and that nothing is set in stone like even now for my shop I like, I'm thinking about changing my like the name of it like why would I try to change the name of it when I just started but it's something that's possible it's something that you can do and it's scary because you put so much time and you think that this is going to be it like I'm never this is how I'm going to do things from now on and it's never going to change.
But I think that's kind of a dangerous mindset to have because you evolve as a person every day so I think as long as you understand that nothing is permanent and that you don't have to be like everyone else even if you think that your style is kind of similar to someone that you look up to. At the end of the day how they journal or how they draw stickers or do art isn't going to be how you do it and that's okay because I feel like you should just be proud of what you put out there and instead of regretting that you didn't do as much as you could or put products out there that didn't reflect yourself as much as you would have wanted it to.
That was kind of all over the place as far as an answer, that's kind of my mind a little bit but honestly just start doing it there's no rules to journaling or to art and if anyone tells you that there's rules to something like that then — they're wrong — probably shouldn't listen to that honestly
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Jess: I feel like you perfectly described the fixed mindset versus the growth mindset by the way. Just the growth mindset just accepting that things will change and then you will learn and that not everything is set in stone and I think that links back to what you said before where you just you don't put that much pressure on yourself and that's because you know inside you're like I can change this if I don't like it and I feel like, I think a lot of people get caught up in that when they're trying something new for the first time they put so much pressure on themselves because they think it has to be perfect and that they think if they don't get it right the first time then I don't know what that says about them but yeah.
I think that's a really, really healthy and like the self-loving mindset to know that like you can change and you will change and you will grow over time and just to start and to be perfect I think that's the perfect way to end this episode thank you so much that was amazing. I would love to know what is one goal for 2022 for you personally, for your shop, for anything.
Savannah: I was thinking about this before I got on because I had a feeling you were gonna ask and— which is okay. A few things, for my instagram I want to try to get to posting consistently and the reason I don't I feel like I don't post consistently is because of how long it takes the back end to kind of get to where I have to post it just takes so long that by the time I'm done with the spread and done taking a photo because it's an entire production, I lose a little bit of motivation so I want to try to maybe streamline it or just be more disciplined with myself as far as posting more
Jess: so how often do you post now and what is the goal like what is consistent for you?
Savannah: um consistently I want to try twice a week. Right now I maybe post once every week to two weeks so I'm asking a lot of myself but it's also because I know it's possible because I have a lot of journaling spreads that I haven't posted yeah so I have a lot on the back end — the content's right there — the content's there so I know I could do it it's just giving myself that push to do it, so I would say posting twice a week on instagram. As far as my shop I want to stick to doing monthly shop updates I feel like that kind of works for me. Diving deeper into different kinds of products like pins or apparel, doing more washi tapes because that was a lot of fun.
Posting, I want to start a blog, I feel like blogging would be a lot of fun or just having a newsletter — yes a newsletter you know I tell you to get a newsletter — I know you're an advocate for newsletters so I I think just spending more time on my brand overall I feel like is something I want to really work on for next year because I didn't start my shop until the end of this year so I feel like starting fresh and like you know new year new me but not really just trying to spend more time with what I've started I think is a goal for myself.
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Jess: that's amazing I think you've had a an insane year congrats on your shop launch and three shop updates and you've had more shop updates that I've had in the entire year, I don't even know, that is amazing.
Thank you so much for talking with me, it was so nice to hear to see your face after a year I have known you for a year but I haven't seen your face before and just hearing your mindset behind everything. Thank you so much.
Savannah: yeah thank you this was awesome I love talking with you and hopefully we can talk again like this
Jess: yeah absolutely would love to. Alright I'll let you get back to your day and pack some orders I know that you've got... Bye!